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 Published: 29/06/2009

 
FAQ's - Financial

Financial Frequently Asked Questions

dot Who can I talk to about finances and residential care?
dot What do I do when my money runs out?
dot Do I have to sell my house if I go into residential care?
dot Do we sell our home if it’s just one of us going into care?
dot How long will it take to organise a Residential Care Loan?
dot How much National Super will I receive once I’m in care and paying privately?
dot Can I borrow more money if I’m already receiving a Residential Care Loan?
dot If I take out a Residential Care Loan, can I keep my NZ National Super?
dot Can a rest home ask me to pay before my subsidy comes through?
dot Will my partner's earnings be counted as income?
dot Will my War Disablement pension affect Residential Care subsidy?
dot Am I allowed to give $5,000 to my grandson before I go into long-stay care?
dot What is Maximum Contribution?
dot What portion of my capital will I lose when I leave my retirement village unit?
dot How can I get money to pay for a new pair of glasses?
dot Can I pre-pay funeral costs?

 

 

Who can I talk to about finances and residential care?up

Ask around your network of family and friends for referral to a lawyer or financial advisor who has some expertise in this specialist area. Public Trust may also be able to help.

Work and Income acts as an agent for the Crown, they do the income and asset-testing on behalf of District Health Boards to establish entitlement for Residential Care Subsidy. They are prepared to look at situations on a ‘case by case basis,’ so it is always worth seeking their advice.

Further information:

dot For general enquiries about National Superannuation and Advance Payments phone Work and Income NZ on 0800 552 002.
dot For specific enquiries about Residential Care Subsidy, Residential Loan or Superannuation - when you are thinking about long term care, phone Work and Income NZ on 0800 999 727.   
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/publications/brochures.html

What do I do when my money runs out?up

Scenario: I'm paying for my care privately now, but what do I do when my funds run out?

Public funding for rest home and hospital care for older people is known as the Residential Care Subsidy. You have to apply for this. Application forms are only available through Needs Assessment and Service Co-ordination (NASC), who do an assessment and authorise the application. Often an assessment done within the previous 12 months is considered adequate, but check with your local NASC service. If your health status has recently changed, you may require another assessment. 

It is best to do all this before your money gets down to the allowable amount, as the application process through Work and Income takes time. Subsidy will not be paid until the Needs Assessment has been completed and Work and Income have approved the application. They can only backdate approval 28 days prior to when the application is received.

Once you have applied for the subsidy, Work and Income Residential Subsidy Unit in Whangarei can calculate when your money will reach the allowable limit. They calculate the figures based on the 'maximum contribution' per week. These figures vary from region to region. 

Further information:

dot Work and Income NZ, Residential Care Subsidy booklet, phone 0800 999 727
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/publications/brochures.html
dot Residential Care Line National Directory of NASC

Do I have to sell my house if I go into residential care?up

The short answer is no. If you do not want to sell your house, but do not have sufficient money to pay your fees, you may be able to apply for an interest-free loan. You arrange a residential care loan by applying for subsidy in the normal way, filling in an extra section which relates to the loan. The loan is not a lump sum, it builds up week by week as a debt against your property. 

If you qualify for a loan, Ministry of Social Development will ask you to sign a legal contract called the ‘Agreement to pay Residential Care Subsidy’. Security is taken over your property, usually by registering a caveat over the title and the fees paid build up as a loan. This becomes repayable on the death of the owner in care or when the house is sold. 

Further information:

dot Phone Work and Income NZ, Whangarei phone 0800 999 727
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz

Do we sell our home if it’s just one of us going into care?up

If you have a partner or dependent child living at home, you do not need to sell your property. For a couple where only one partner requires care, the house, chattels and car are not taken into account and the allowable level for combined assets is $55,000. You can choose to be tested against a total asset level of $150,000. If you own two properties, then it is likely you will have to sell one.

Further information:

dot Residential Care Subsidy and Living Alone Payment from WINZ
dot Phone Work and Income NZ 0800 999 727
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/

How long will it take to organise a Residential Care Loan?up

The average time frame from application for a financial means assessment to first loan payment can be up to twelve weeks. There have been large numbers of applications following the July 2005 change in legislation, so the current time frame may be longer. If it is determined that you are not financially eligible for Residential Care Subsidy, Work and Income (part of the Ministry of Social Development) pass the loan application on to the Ministry’s Legal Services division. 

Ministry of Social Development recommend that you pay only your New Zealand Superannuation (less a personal allowance of $30.87 per week) towards the cost of your care while you wait for the loan application to be processed, as calculations for the loan are made on this basis. If any additional money is paid to the provider whilst awaiting the loan, you will need to negotiate a refund with the care provider when the loan starts, as loan payments are made direct to providers.

See also, Can a rest home ask me to pay before subsidy comes through?

Further information:

dot Phone Work and Income NZ 0800 999 727
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz

How much National Super will I receive once I’m in care and paying privately?up

You will be paid the basic New Zealand Superannuation, minus other housing benefits such as 'living alone' payments you may have been entitled to when you were living in your own home. Your Super will continue to be credited into your bank account. As you are paying privately, it is your responsibility to pay fees to the care provider. Anything you agree to pay for should be in your Admission agreement - a private contract between you and the care provider.

Further information:

dot Phone Work and Income NZ 0800 999 727
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/

Can I borrow more money if I’m already receiving a Residential Care Loan?up

No, this is not possible. The loan is not like an ordinary loan where you borrow a set amount of money. Instead, by registering a caveat over the title of your house, the fees owed for your care are paid by Ministry of Health and build up as a debt against the property. 

Work and Income New Zealand use the maximum contribution rate to calculate the cost of care, this includes doctor’s fees, incontinence products and transport costs, etc.

Further information:

dot Phone Work and Income NZ 0800 999 727
dot See the National contract for Aged Residential Care Services on www.moh.govt.nz/olderpeople , sections A13, D13

If I take out a Residential Care Loan, can I keep my NZ National Super?up

No, you must pay the Super contribution towards the cost of your care. You can do this yourself, or ask Work and Income to redirect on your behalf. You retain a personal allowance of $30.87 per week. (April 2005)

Further information:

dot Phone Work and Income NZ 0800 999 727
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/

Can a rest home ask me to pay before my subsidy comes through?up

You may be asked to cover the cost of care until your subsidy or loan is approved. If this happens, pay the New Zealand Superannuation contribution to the fees until the Residential Care subsidy payment  comes through. You retain the personal allowance portion for your own use - this is $30.87 per week (April 2005)  ie. a single person will pay $199.87 and one partner of a couple will pay $161.55 per week to a rest home/hospital.

If you have paid the full amount of New Zealand Super to the rest home/hospital, then you will need to recover the personal allowance when the subsidy starts being paid.

Further information:

dot Phone Work and Income NZ 0800 999727
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/
dot Residential Care Line, Moving into Residential Care
 

Will my partner's earnings be counted as income?

For couples with one partner in care, any income from paid employment of the partner living in the community will be excluded. 

Will my War Disablement pension affect Residential Care subsidy?up

This pension will not be counted as income for the purposes of Residential Care subsidy. However, income from the following will go towards your care:

dot income from a family trust
dot accident insurance payments
dot overseas government pensions
dot contributions from relatives
dot earnings from investments or business
dot New Zealand Superannuation, any pension or income support payment 

For New Zealand registered private superannuation schemes and annuities, only 50% is counted as income.

Further information:

dot Phone Work and Income NZ 0800 999 727
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/

Am I allowed to give $5,000 to my grandson before I go into long-stay care?up

Gifting is a very complex area - it is best to discuss individual circumstances with Work and Income, Whangarei before making any decisions.

Further information:

dot Phone Work and Income NZ 0800 999 727
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/documents/brochures/residential-care-subsidy.pdf  

What is Maximum Contribution?

This is a new term introduced with the Social Security (Long term residential care) Amendment Act 2004. Maximum Contribution is the amount the District Health Board (DHB) pays for rest home care in a given area. Maximum Contribution is GST inclusive and rates vary. Areas with high land values have a higher rate, but for most parts of New Zealand the Maximum Contribution is $636 per week.
Rates contracted by the DHB for Dementia Units and Private Hospitals are higher than Maximum Contribution, so the shortfall is paid by the DHB as Top Up subsidy (part subsidy).

What portion of my capital will I lose when I leave my retirement village unit?up

This fee, known variously as the 'release fee', 'depreciation', 'transfer fee', or 'termination fee' is calculated differently by different villages, but often amounts to about 20% of the original purchase price.

Depending on your contract with the village concerned, you may also be liable for ongoing service fees until the unit is sold.

Further information:

dot www.retirementvillages.org.nz

How can I get money to pay for a new pair of glasses?up

If you are living at home, you can apply for an 'Advance Payment' of Superannuation through your local Work and Income NZ office - this usually needs to be repaid. 

If you are in care and receiving Residential Care subsidy, you cannot be asked to repay the advance from your Personal Allowance. If there is a caveat over the title of your home, Work and Income may be able to recoup the money when the house is sold. 

Generally speaking, Advances are only made for glasses, dentures and hearing aids for costs up to a maximum of $1000.

Further information:

dot Work and Income, NZ Superannuation booklet, phone 0800 552 002 to request a copy.
dot Phone Work and Income 0800 999 727, for enquiries around residential care
dot http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/publications/brochures.html

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Can I pre-pay funeral costs?

You can deposit up to $10,000 in an approved funeral trust, ie one where money cannot be accessed until the person dies. Approved trusts are exempt from asset testing for Residential Care subsidy. A trust set up by an individual solicitor that meets approval conditions, may be given an 'ok' by Work and Income on a case by case basis. Any interest generated by the trust is also exempt.

Public Trust, the Funeral Directors Association of New Zealand,  and a number of other  trusts such as Tower, Perpetual, Guardian etc all offer pre-paid funeral trust schemes. Some require a one-off establishment fee, some have ongoing costs, and for some there is also a discharge fee.

Further information:

dot Public Trust 0800 371471 or website www.publictrust.co.nz 
dot Phone Work and Income NZ 0800 999 727


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